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Mail from Our Readers is our latest
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letter that we receive. In all cases e-mail addresses and names will not be
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In the October 2003 edition of
the Ukrainian Orthodox Word, a “letter to the editor” was published from Dr.
George Krywolap, Secretary of the Metropolitan Council, UOC-USA, responding to
a letter from Professor Samijlenko that was originally published in the June
20, 2003 edition of Svoboda.
Regular readers of the Ukrainian Orthodox Word know that letters to the
editor rarely appear in the Ukrainian Orthodox Word, but when they are
published they predictably support, defend, or provide a positive spin to the
positions and actions of the hierarchy of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC)
in the US.
Previously we published a
response to Dr. Krywolap from Mr. Simon Hahnibida under the headline “The Spin
Continues..”. Following is a response to Dr.
Krywolap, in Ukrainian, from Mr. Vitalij Grechniv, President of the Parish
Board, St. Michael’s Parish Uniondale, Long Island, New York.
**********************
(In Ukrainian)
10-го
грудня, 2003 р.
Докторе
Криволапе,
Висилаю
Вам
відповідь на
“Лист який
вимагає
відповіді”.
Прошу
вжити Ваш
авторитет
секретаря
Ради Митрополії
УПЦеркви в
США, щоб моя
відповідь
була
опублікована
в
“Українському
Православному
Слові”.
Поскільки
Ваше
“посланіє”
пересичене
образами “і
мертвим, і
живим, і
ненародженним...”,
то моя
відповідь є
більш
тактовна, бо
я говорю
негативно
тільки про
живих, які
можуть оборонятися.
З
належною Вам
пошаною,
Віталій
Гречнів
P.S.
Роздаю
копії всім
хто
цікавиться
церковним
життям. Буду
вдячний Вам
якщо Ви мені
в цьому
допоможете.
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“НА
ПОЧАТКУ БУЛО
СЛОВО....”
А
ПОТІМ
ПОЧАЛАСЯ
НІСЕНІТНИЦЯ
Д-РА КРИВОЛАПА
У
своїй статті
“Журба, якій
немає кінця”
опублікованій
у тижневнику
“Свобода”,
професор І.
Самійленко
запитує”...чи
теперішній
провід УАПЦ в
США дотримується
заповіту
Патріарха
Мстислав? Чи
пішов цей
провід
дорогою
Патріарха до
нашого
Єрусалиму-Києва?”
Він робе своє
заключення,
що цього не
сталося!
В
Українському
Православному
Слові появилася
стаття “Лист
який вимагає
відповіді”. Автор
якої д-р Юрій
Криволап, не
зважаючи на
заголовок
своєї статті,
відповіді на
запит
професора
Самійленка
не дає!
Замість того
він
використовує
статтю щоб ще
раз очорнити
Патріарха
Філарета і
бл. п.
Патріарха
Володимира
та образити
професора
Самійленка.
До того ж ще й
згадував “не
злим, тихим
словом”
президента
Кравчука.
Д-р
Криволап, між
усіми іншими
гріхами Патріарха
Філарета,
закидає йому
те що “...вл. Філарет
ніколи в
пресі не
заявляє про
свій вихід з
юриздикції
Московського
Патріархії. То
ж виглядає,
що був
покараний
нею як її
архирей”. Той
факт, що
Патріарх Філарет,
після
проголошення
незалежності
України не
вважав
потрібним
повідомляти
Москву та
просити її
дозволу на
щобуть, я
вважаю як
доказ прояву
патріотизму.
Бути покараним
та ще й
проклятим
Московською
Патріархією,
так само як
було
зроблене з
гетьманом Іваном
Мазепою,
ставить
Патріарха
Філарета в
історичні
ряди борців
проти
фізичного і духовного
поневолення
України.
Д-р
Криволап
декілька
разів
харектерезує
Патріарха
Філарета
“розвінчаним”,
позбавленим
сану”. Називає
Патріарха
“згасаючою
зіркою
РПЦеркви в
Україні”. Так,
російська
зірка згасла,
а натомість
яскраво
світить
зірка
незалежної
Української
Православної
церкви.
Д-р
Криволап
пропонує
вибрати “.....на
“чільне місце”
Київського
Патріархату
“незаплямленого”
якщо хочемо
щоб нас
“прийняв і
визнав православний
світ”.
Московська
Патріархія
заплямлює
Патріарха
Філарета, і
ви їй
прислужуєтесь
в цьому, бо це
ж для вас
тепер братня
Церква з якою
ви є в
євхаристійному
поєднанні,
ваш
“парвославний
світ”.
Професор
Самійленко
зробив
помилку у
своїй статті
коли назвав
теперішній
провід у
Бавнд Бруці
проводом
УАПЦ в США.
УАПЦ в США,
тобто
незалежна,
перестала
існувати.
В
продовж
десятиліть
ми
відстоювали
незалежність
нашої Церкви
доки не
дочикалися незалежності
нашої держави.
Професор
Самійленко, а
з ним і
багато нас,
тужимо за тим
моментом в
історії
нашої Незалежної
Української
Православної
церкви в
діаспорі
коли наш
владика
Мстислав став
першим
Патріархом
УПЦ України.
Ми відчували
що нарешті
роки
ізоляції від
батьківщини
закінчилися.
Ми були горді
тим, що ми
гідно зберегли
на чужині
незалежною
церкву, яку більшовики
розтріляли в
Україні і
стали невід’ємною
частиною
нашої
національної
Православної
Церкви яку
очолив
Патріарх
Мстислав.
Професор
Самійленко
дуже
тактовно
говоре, що
провідники
церкви з
Бавнд Бруку
здійснили
розрив УАПЦ в
США з
Київським
Патріархатом.
Ви прекрасно
знаєте, д-ре
Криволапе, що
це не так, що в
дісності це
був не розрив
а ЗРАДА! Якщо
владикам з
Бавнд Бруку
не подобалось
те що
робилося в
церковному
житті в
Україні, то
вони моглиб
затримати
УПЦ в США
далі
незалежною,
замість того
щоб потайки
передати її
під
зверхність
чужинців.
Ви, пане
докторе,
цитуєте на
ст. 72,
Протоколу 15-го
Собору УПЙ в
США слова
митрополита
Константина:
“Ми не будемо
завжди під омофором
Вселенського
Патріарха, а
лише до часу,
коли буде
визнана УПЦ
Київського
Патрірхату”.
Чи
Вселенський
Патріарх
знає про ці
плани? В
Пунктах
Згоди нічого
про вихід з
під омофору
не сказано.
Нащо ж ви
замилюєте
нам очі!
Будьте
ласкаві,
поясніть
читачам
“Свободи” як
відбуватиметься
вихід з під
омофору і
юриздикції
Вселенського
Патріархату.
Згідно з
вашою
логікою,
митрополит
Константин
мусить
заявити а
пресі про свій
відхід з
юриздикції
Вселенської
Патріархії і,
тоді він не
буде
покараний як
її архієрей.
Одне лише
може не
сподобатись
Вселенському
Патріархові,
а саме, що
прийшли до
нього
тишком-нишком
а відходять
гучно з
заявою в пресі.
Звичайно,
його цей
розголос не
дуже розвеселить,
але він
напевно не
накладе анафему
на
митрополита
Константина
як це зробила
Московська
Патріархія з
Філаретом. Бачите,
Росія
боялася
цілковито
втратити духовний
контроль над
Україною, а
що втратить
Вселенська
Патріархія
коли ви від
неї відійдете?
Втратить
пару
розсварених
між собою
архиреїв та
залякані
парафії і
духовенство –
парафії
втратою
майна, а
священики
втратою
парафій і
пенсій.
Припустімо
що
неймовірне
станеться і
ви вийдете з
під
юриздикції
Вселенського
Патріархату.
А що як
Україна не
захоче
пийняти вас,
новітніх
яничар, і
відповість
вам словами
Т. Шевченка:
“Ох, як би то
сталось, щоб
ви не
вертались,
щоб і здихали,
де ви
поросли!” Що
тоді ? Для
всіх інших це
була б велика
проблема, але
не для вас.
Вам буде дуже
легко
переповзти
від Другого
до Третього
Риму. Москва
з радістю
прийме всіх
блудних
синів у свої
обійми.
Ви,
докторе,
чомусь не
глянули на
сусідню 73-тю
ст.
Протоколу, де
митрополит
Константин каже:
“УПЦ в США
залишилась і
надалі
існувати як
самостійна
УПЦерква”.
Обидві
цитати – одна
на 72-ій ст. А
друга на 73-ій, є
ввічливо
кажучи, брехнею.
Якщо УПЦ
в США не є
адміністративно
підпорядковане
Істанбулу, то
чому ж Бавнд
Бруцьким
владикам не тільки
були надані
титули
неіснуючих
міст в
Туреччені, а
також від них
були
відібрані
титули
незалежної
УПЦеркви в
США? Ви прекрасно
знаєте
відповідь!
Вживаючи
ваші слова: “Як
може в тій
самій Церкві
перебувати
на столичній
катедрі два
єпископи з
тим самим титулом...?”
І дійсно, як в
столиці
Вашінгтоні могли
бути в той
самий час, в
тій самій
Церкві, два
єпископи,
Мелітон і
Антоній? То ж
“старший
брат” грек
залишився
Вашінгтонським
єпископом, а
наш
“самостійний”
зрікся цього
титулу.
На 65-ій ст.
Протоколу
подано
слідуюче: “В.
Гречнів
говорить про ‘зраду
Україні’ та
називає
ієрархів
зрадниками”.
Так, я говорив
це тоді і
повторюю
знов, цей раз
вам особиство,
докторе
Криволапе, ієрархи
з Бавнд Бруку
зрадили
Патріарха Мстислава,
зрадили
наших
батьків,
зрадили нас!
Заборона
духовенству
з США
молитися з священиками
в Україні,
хіба що вони
Московського
Патріархату,
є зрада
Україні. Отже
не треба
повертатись
до 1915 року щоб
якось оправдати
теперішній
злочин Бавнд
Бруцького єпископату.
Віталій
Гречнів,
Голова
Парафії
Св. Михаїла, є
Юніондале,
Ню Йорк
Грудень
2003р.
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15-го
грудня, 2003
До
Редакції
“Українського
Православного
Слова”
Прошу
надрукувати
мою
відповідь на
статтю д-ра
Криволапа
“Лист який
вимагає
відповіді”.
Дуже
дивно, що д-р
Криволап
відповідає
професору І.
Самійленку
не у “Свободі”,
де була надрукована
стаття
професора, а
в вашій публікації.
Д-р Криволап
пише “В ім’я
правди,
дозволю
спростувати
читачам
“Свободи”...”.
Невже ж він
не знає, що
дуже мало
читачів
“Свободи”
читають “Українське
Православне
Слово”? Мене
дивує, чому
він не подав
свою
відповідь до
“Свободи”?
Я ж
хочу зробити
так, як
повинно бути.
Стаття д-ра
Криволапа
надрукована
в
“Українському
Православному
Слові” – відповідь
на неї подаю
до
“Українського
Православного
Слова”.
З
пошаною,
Віталій
Гречнів
Гантінгтон
Стейшан, Н.Й.
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THE SPIN
CONTINUES……
In the October 2003 edition of the
Ukrainian Orthodox Word, a “letter to the editor” is published from Dr. George
Krywolap, Secretary of the Metropolitan Council, UOC-USA, responding to a
letter from Professor Samijlenko that was originally published in the June 20,
2003 edition of Svoboda. Regular
readers of the Ukrainian Orthodox Word know that letters to the editor rarely
appear in the Ukrainian Orthodox Word, but when they are published they
predictably support, defend, or provide a positive spin to the positions and
actions of the hierarchy of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC) in the US. So the content of Dr. Krywolap’s letter was
no surprise. What did surprise me was
the writer’s inability to understand or grasp the point of Professor Samijlenko’s original letter.
The Professor’s letter stated the
obvious: when Patriarch Mstyslav was alive both the UOC in the US and the
Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Ukraine were under his jurisdiction. In other words they were united then but
that is no longer the case. Indeed, at
this time, not only is the UOC in the US not united with any Ukrainian Orthodox
Church in Ukraine, but the UOC in the US is totally under the jurisdiction of a
non-Ukrainian hierarch – the Patriarch of Constantinople (Istanbul).
Dr. Krywolap spends many paragraphs
explaining how the 1992 Sobor held in Ukraine to unite the UOC-KP and the UOAC
was not initiated nor blessed by Patriarch Mstyslav and how Metropolitan
Filaret formed the UOC-KP for self-promoting reasons. Dr. Krywopal quotes a
proclamation from Patriarch Mstyslav that called for Metropolitans Filaret and
Anthony (Masendych) to remove themselves from positions of power, etc. What Dr. Krywolap does not mention are the
various Christmas and Easter encyclicals that were jointly signed and issued by
Ukrainian bishops from the US and Ukraine, and appeared not only in the
Ukrainian Orthodox Word but also in Svoboda and other periodicals.
Dr. Krywolap does not mention, but those
of us present at the funeral of Patriarch Mstyslav remember quite well, Metropolitan
Constantine and Archbishop Anthony concelebrating the Divine Liturgy with
hierarchs from Ukraine (both the UOAC and UOC-KP) at St. Andrew’s Memorial
Church. We also vividly remember Bishop
Vsevolod and Metropolitan Vasyl (of UOC-Canada) standing outside the altar area
with the Ukrainian Catholic bishops, refusing to concelebrate because both were
under the jurisdiction of the Patriarch of Constantinople (Istanbul) and both
were not permitted to join with their Ukrainian brothers. This was covered extensively in the
Ukrainian Orthodox Word.
Nor does Dr. Krywolap mention, that
after the demise of Patriarch Mstyslav, a Sobor was held in Ukraine, which
elected Patriarch Volodymyr (Romaniuk). Present at this Sobor were representatives
from the UOC in the US headed by Archbishop Anthony who was, for a brief time
until he removed his name, a candidate for Patriarch. This also was covered extensively in the Ukrainian Orthodox Word.
The point I am making is that the UOC in
the US was united with a Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Ukraine, despite any
struggles and differences that existed between the individual hierarchs.
There are many other convenient
omissions. For example Dr. Krywolap makes a point that it was impossible to
have two Metropolitans of Kyiv (Filaret and Mstyslav), while ignoring the fact
that at the same time, according to Bound Brook, there were two presiding
Metropolitans of the UOC in the US (Mstyslav and Constantine). I stress this because the UOC-USA hierarchs
have repeatedly stated that Patriarch Mstyslav was the Patriarch of the Church
in Ukraine, but only the Metropolitan of the UOC in the US. Documents reflect that Metropolitan
Constantine was the Metropolitan of the UOC in the US at that same time. I guess this was fine for the US, but
impossible for Ukraine.
However, the item that disturbed me the
most was the quote attributed to Metropolitan Constantine from the 15th
Sobor (1998) of the UOC in the US stating that the church in the US is under
the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarch only temporarily, until the
Ukrainian Orthodox Patriarch is recognized.
The obvious, unanswered question is: recognized by whom - the Ukrainian
people, the Ukrainian government, Rome, Turkey, Moscow? I re-examined the infamous Points of
Agreement and did not find any reference to a “temporary jurisdiction” under
the Patriarch of Constantinople (Istanbul), as both Dr. Krywolap and
Metropolitan Constantine would like us to believe. Maybe Dr. Krywolap has access to another signed document or
letter that has not been made public.
Or maybe Dr. Krywolap and his fellow apologist Dr. Lysyj have
brainwashed themselves into believing that by accepting the jurisdiction of the
Patriarch of Constantinople (Istanbul), the UOC in the US has somehow helped or
solidified Ukrainian Orthodox independence in Ukraine. After all hasn’t history shown that the
Ecumenical Patriarchate has consistently helped to defend, protect and preserve
the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and its identity? But history proves that the opposite is the case and there is no
reason to believe or hope that this will change in the future. Or maybe both Dr. Krywolap and Dr. Lysyj
both believe the unbelievable, otherwise how could they explain their acquiescence,
support, and defense of the steps taken by the hierarchy of the UOC in the US.
Unlike Dr. Krywolap and Dr. Lysyj, I
believe that the existence, independence, recognition, survival, growth and
future of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church both in the US and in Ukraine will be
determined and can be guaranteed only by the Ukrainian Orthodox people. Separating the UOC in the US from Ukraine
and placing it under the jurisdiction of a non-Ukrainian hierarch weakens us.
It threatens the identity and survival of the UOC in the US and it makes the
fight for independence from Moscow more difficult for the UOC in Ukraine. I cannot name any other Orthodox Church in
the US that has taken a similar action.
Why was it done, who benefits from it, and why do individuals, such as
Dr. Krywolap and Dr. Lysyj, continue to defend, justify and spin it.
Simon Nahnibida
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E-Mail
to Save Our UOC…received November 20,
2003
Sir:
In the October 2003 (Vol.
LIII Issue X) issue of the Ukrainian Orthodox Word the editor, in reporting on
the 5-year lawsuit against
“…hierarchal… means simply that there is a
hierarchy of administration in the government of our Ukrainian Orthodox Church
of the
I
completely disagree with this editorial interpretation. The Court ruling of
According
to the dictionary, the term “hierarch” comes from the Greek hieros (sacred) and
archos (ruler). The term “hierarchical church” means one ruled or governed by
bishops.
This is not what the UOC-USA is all
about. From its inception the UOC-USA
was founded on basic democratic principles.
The UOC-USA Constitution clearly states that the “Sobor”, and not a
hierarch, is the Supreme Organ of Government of the Church. Between the Sobors, which are held every
three years, the Metropolitan Council is the Supreme Organ of Government. Both the Sobor and the Metropolitan Council consist
of clergy and laypersons. Decisions
within and by these two administrative entities are made by a majority vote of
both clergy and laypersons. So there is
no “hierarchy of administration” within the UOC-USA.
There exists a “hierarchy” or
pecking order within the clergy of UOC-USA where a parish deacon reports to a
parish priest, who in turn reports to a Dean, who reports to a Bishop (elected
and approved by the Sobor), who reports to the Metropolitan. The Metropolitan is the “Spiritual Head” of
UOC-USA, elected to that position by the Sobor made up of clergy and
laypersons.
This
concept may be difficult for a Catholic to understand. And since many of the UOC-USA clergy,
including the editor of the Ukrainian Orthodox Word, are former-Catholic
seminarians and priests, the Bound Brook Bishops have the support they need to
pursue the “hierarchical” organization they desire.
In addition, this same editorial outlines the
descending administrative order within the UOC-USA with individual parishes at
the bottom. This again is a wrong
interpretation. The individual parishes
are all equal members of UOC-USA. The
parish priest is automatically a delegate to the Sobor and each parish elects
two laypersons as delegates (please note that the laypersons are positioned to
outvote the clergy). Each parish shares
in governing UOC-USA by participating in the Supreme Organ of Government - the
Church Sobor. Therefore the parish is not at the administrative bottom of the pecking
order, but actually at the top as it votes and makes decisions at the Sobor.
The UOC-USA Constitution can be viewed as a
“contract” between each individual parish and UOC-USA. When parishes join UOC-USA, the Constitution
provides them with certain rights, obligations, and privileges. This same Constitution also provides UOC-USA
with rights, obligations and privileges.
Among these is government by a “Sobor” based on democratic principles of
church administration. Of equal if not greater importance, is the “Autocephaly”
or independence of the UOC-USA from foreign rule, influence or domination.
When any point (term) specifically listed in the
constitution or “contract” is violated, the contract is considered broken and
stops being binding. In 1995 our
hierarchs and the duped lay members of the Metropolitan Council gave up our
church’s Autocephaly / independence by signing the infamous Points of Agreement
in
That is what the 5-year lawsuit with Holy Ascension -
Please… no name, e-mail address or city.
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Mr.Simon Nahnybida writes of………….
“
the attempt by the leadership of the UOC-USA to re-write history”
To:
Save Our UOC Committee
Gentlemen;
I first noticed the disinformation regarding Patriarch / Metropolitan Mstyslav
when Father Estocin's letter appeared in The Weekly stating that Bound Brook
was never part of the reborn Ukrainian Autocephalous Church (UAOC) in Ukraine,
and that Patriarch Mstyslav was not the Patriarch of the UOC-USA, but only of
Ukraine.
Father Estocin further wrote "the letterhead that was utilized by
Patriarch Mstyslav throughout his reign clearly indicates that he considered
himself to be Patriarch of Ukraine and Metropolitan of the Ukrainian Orthodox
Church of the USA". I do not understand this conclusion since I
believe that the letterhead documents the unity of Kyiv with the UOC-USA by
prominently incorporating St. Andrew's Memorial Church in Bound Brook within
the boundaries of the Patriarchal seal.
Additional examples are plentiful:
1. The June 7, 1990 directive from the UOC-USA
Consistory that "all Father Pastors of the
UAOC in the United States of America and throughout the world are hereby
requested to
...commemorate the hierarchy of the UAOC as follows: His Holiness
Mstyslav, Patriarch of
the
Holy UAOC, Archbishops Constantine (followed by a list of archbishops in
Ukraine, Their
Graces
Bishops Anthony, Paisiy (followed by a list of bishops in Ukraine)".
2. The Ukrainian Orthodox Word (UOW) report that
the 13th Sobor of the UOC-USA was
blessed and presided by Patriarch (not Metropolitan) Mstyslav.
3. The UOW announcement that there was only one
world-wide UAOC, and only one Council of Bishops that
embraced both Ukraine and the Diaspora; this Council of Bishops was
chaired by Patriarch Mstyslav and included
the
hierarchs of the UOC-USA.
4. The sacred antimins used on the UOC-USA parish
altars, signed by Patriarch (not Metropolitan) Mstyslav.
5. The elevation of Archbishop Constantine to
Metropolitan of the UOC-USA by his acknowledged superior, Patriarch
Mstyslav, and confirmed by the Sobor, thereby replacing Patriarch
Mstyslav in his capacity as Metropolitan of the
UOC-USA. How could the UOC-USA have had two simultaneous heads -
two reigning Metropolitans?
Patriarch Mstyslav's title was "of Ukraine", with Kyiv as his
ecclesiastic center. The Orthodox Churches, after all, are organized
along national / ethnic lines. Isn't the Serbian Patriarch the Patriarch
for Serbian Orthodox Christians whether they live in Serbia, the US, Canada,
China or Tahiti? And what about the Rumanian, Bulgarian, Russian,
etc. Ask the Orthodox Diaspora of these nations to name their patriarch
and their respective ecclesiastic centers. It will not be Patriarch
Bartholomew, and it will not be Istanbul or Constantinople. Ask the
hierarchs of the UOC-USA to name their patriarch and their ecclesiastic
center. Clearly, it is not Kyiv. But while Patriarch Mstyslav was
alive, the answer would have been Kyiv. And therein lies the tragedy of
the UOC-USA, and is the reason for the ongoing turmoil in our church.
However, an even greater tragedy is the attempt by the leadership of the
UOC-USA to re-write history and to pretend that all of these events did not
take place, especially in light of the fact that they were participants.
Simon Nahnybida
June 25, 2003
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E-mail Received April 19, 2003
Your latest posting on the Holy Ascension at Clifton NJ case
mentions that a Determination of Standing will be made in January
2003 by the Court of Judge Mahon in Flemington NJ. Because it is
April already, what was the Determination of Standing? Am I missing
your posting on this matter for some reason?
Reply: The decision on Determination of Standing has been delayed.
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E-mail received
February 25, 2003
Dear
Sirs,
I, like you, share a certain dislike for the attitudes often displayed by both
the Greek Archdiocese/Turkish Patriarchate (too Greek and power-hungry) and the
OCA (too Russian and deny it, hiding behind the english language). I
believe both are quite egocentric and do too much to force themselves on
others. I am neither Greek nor Russian and am always made feel like a "lower class" Orthodox by those
two groups. However, in reading your website, I'd like to make a couple
observations:
1)http://wwww.saveouruoc.com/didyouknow.html
You discuss here the "28th Canon of the Fourth Ecumenical Council (451)
which extended the EP’s authority to “the dioceses of Asia, Pontus and Thrace,
and to the barbarian lands.”" You did misquote the canon. It
in fact says in a correct translation that his authority is over the barbarian
lands, by name: Asia, Pontius and Thrace. At that time, those were the barbarian
lands. There is no mention of North America, therefore the Church of
Russia does have the precedence as the closest Church and the first to
send missionaries. (I realize you have issues with the Church of Russia, but
this is the fact according to the canons.)
2)http://wwww.saveouruoc.com/scoba.html
In your review of this subject, and the short segments from the article by
Archbishop Nathaniel, you make a small but significant error. The Church
formerly known as the Russian Metropolia in America was incorporated as "The
Orthodox Church IN America". When Archbishop Nathaniel uses the term
"the Orthodox Church of America" he is referring to the Orthodox
Church in its entirety here in America, not the "OCA". Perhaps
the reader of the article is not so familiar with such English nuances, but due
to the mistake you are accusing the Archbishop of a message he was not
saying. (It would be appropriate for you to revise you
commentary
on the issue or to remove it, as your inaccuracy only hurts your credibility.)
I am sympathetic to your cause, but urge you to be as factually correct and
intellectually honest as possible in order for others to take you seriously.
A fellow Orthodox Christian in America.
Editors Comment:
We thank “A fellow Orthodox Christian in America” for
bringing the above to our attention. Appropriate corrections have been made.
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E-mail
received 01-28-03
Antony and Estocin met with the (St. John the Baptist
Parish) council on Saturday evening and saw that the well was deep
and full of water. They then conveniently cancelled the public
meeting that was to have been held on Sunday afternoon. After the Sunday
dinner, (they) instead held private audiences with any who
wanted to voice their concerns about the future of the parish.
I have it on good authority that during
Antony's numerous ongoing telephone sessions to find a way out of the
inevitable spectacle for all of the Bound Brook insiders concerned, Antony
has consistently probed about my involvement in the parish. He
apparently did that at the meeting on Saturday night.
I will provide you with Ukrainian and
English texts which will provide historical contexts and an
understanding why Antony was so "chemnay" this weekend.
Slawko
Kosiwskiy
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Following are several e-mail’s that we received pertaining to
the arrival of Archbishop Antony and Fr. Frank Estocin at St. John the Baptist
Parish, Portland, Oregon on January 25, 2002
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01-23-03 E-mail sent to Archbishop Antony on the occasion of his
upcoming visit on January 25 to St. John the Baptist, Portland, Oregon.
Attention:
Antony, Archbishop of Hierapolis / Patriarchate of Constantinople
The
National Council of Churches website (ncccusa.org), of which the UOC of
the USA is a member, incorrectly lists the Church as the Ukrainian
Orthodox Church of America in its MEMBER COMMUNIONS link. That link is found about halfway down the index on the
left side of the home page.
I
thought that you might want to know but forgot to include a note with
the earlier email.
Also,
(on your upcoming visit to St. John’s the Baptist Parish) will you be
bringing the Portland parish a check for $2871.15 plus compound
interest for expenses incurred as the result of the violation
of immigration law with respect to the previous pastor's assignment?
See
you soon!
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I
am forwarding an email received from St. John the Baptist parish in Portland,
OR.
In
the Word attachment, you will find the second request for the removal of
the Very Rev. Fr. Iwan Michailovich Semko from St. John's parish.
The
so called Antony, Archbishop of Hierapolis / Patriarchate of
Constantinople will be arriving in Portland on Jan. 25, and will meet with
the parish after Divine Liturgy on Sunday. Immediately after that,
Antony will be departing for St. Michael's parish San Francisco,
CA, presumably also to put out fires and shore up the empire.
Slawko
Kosiwskiy
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E-mail
received 01-27-03
Literary
Review
How about that January 2003 issue of the “new”
Ukrainian Orthodox Word? Full color,
nice graphics and good quality paper. Not bad from an organization that is in
deep financial doo doo and which spends more that 50% of their budget on
administrative salaries.
Also TWO pages of advertisement from Scope Travel,
Inc. We suppose that is in gratitude to Archbishop Antony for organizing a 40+
group on a “pilgrimage” to Ukraine in October.
Just out of curiosity…how many bishops does UOC-USA
have in USA? From the 12 pictures and one portrait of Archbishop Antony in the
January 2003 issue you would guess only ONE bishop. Whatever happened to
Metropolitan Constantine and Archbishop Vsevolod? Are they still part of
UOC-USA?
The only thing missing from the “new” Ukrainian
Orthodox Word is literary excellence of the type that was in every issue when
the Orthodox Word, under the literary guidance of then Metropolitan Mstyslav,
was truly Ukrainian. Now it is nothing but a colorful “rag” without any
literary or redeeming qualities whatsoever. And they have the audacity to list
a $30.00 yearly subscription price on the inside cover? Not from me they won’t
!!
In a nutshell the “NEW” Ukrainian Orthodox Word is
colorful, but a “rag” is still a “rag” no matter how may pictures of Archbishop
Antony they use.
Name withheld by request of the author.
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